So I know this one is a little late, but just over a week ago we had the ANZ 40k Team Championships, where for the most part the top 8 players from each state band together with months of prep like list design, team line ups and pairing strategies to battle it out for the title of Australian Champions. The ANZ 40k Team Championships is hands down the best event I have ever attended, and not just for the games, but the build up and coming together as a team is a great experience, discussing strategies over team dinners/meetings is what really makes this event so great. Catching up with all the interstate boys for a few beers is what separates this tournament from any other regular local event you could attend.
After QLD's three year winning streak was ended by Victoria last year we felt like we had a point to prove. With all of our heavy hitters now back in the loop we had planned from the start to come out swinging. We decided to go a little off meta with our line up and stacking fairly heavily on the multi wound/ toughness 8 line up with one horde army to keep the other states on their toes when it came to pairings. This certainly worked fairly well as most rounds each team quickly ran out of resources to right all our toughness 8 lists. (repulsors with G man, plague burst crawlers with mortarion, Knights + bulgryns. meganobs + lootas)
For those of you who don't already know what I ran at this event Hivefleet Cuck re surfaced, this was definitely the right call from a team perspective, not only because of the strength of the army and how difficult it can be to handle, but players from all other states knowing the success it has had and just genuinely being concerned about pairing into it.
We finished day one in a commanding lead with some huge battle point wins in round 1 and 2, this really put the pressure on the other teams who could not just sneak in a draw against us but now had no choice but to try and secure the win. Because of this, going into round 5 against Western Australia, we knew if we were all to play conservative we couldn't lose the event. Round 5 was really coming down to the wire until a few of the last games swung pretty heavily in our favour and we were able to run away with it. A massive congratulations to WA though, this was their best ATC showing to date, we knew coming into this one that there were going to be the team to beat but I stood by the QLD boys and backed them to pull through and take back the throne.
This event summed up another untouchable run for the Hivefleet, before ATC I was certainly having doubts in the bugs within the meta game but this was definitely to reassure myself on the army. What does this mean moving forward for the Hivefleet?
Expect them to make a return through the bottom end of the 2019 tournament season, possibly going down a very different path. If I can make this secret list work at 1500 points, expect to see this one make its debut at Winter Warfest.
Monday, May 27, 2019
Monday, April 29, 2019
The Cleansing Flame
Alrighty guys welcome back, as most of you would know over the weekend I attended Briscon ran by the lads at The Normal Blokes sponsored by Jason from Queensland Gamers Guild. Big shout out to all the guys who were involved in putting this one together, it's great to see another big event on QLD's calender and im sure I could speak on behalf of the players who attended that it was a blast.
Now, for what you're really here for, straight outta 5th ed, the boys in grey... The Grey Knights. So a few weeks ago I posted on our clubs Facebook page Godhammer Gaming ( https://www.facebook.com/GodhammerGaming/) a little something to get the community involved a little bit by allowing them to vote on which codex I would have to play at the next event. This of course ended up being the worlds most famous bottom feeders Mono Grey Knights. I can safely say for all the flak these guys cop I honestly had the most fun in ages playing them. They have so many unique tools and interesting combos that people either don't pick up on or seriously underrate.
For those who haven't seen the list this is roughly what I ran;
Draigo
Brother Captain
Grand master dread knight
apothecary
10 pallies
10 purifiers
5 purgs
godhammer land raider
godhammer land raider
So at first glance this definitely looks like something straight from 5th edition but when you consider how terrain is starting to shape up in 8th ed with all the line of sight blocking, the shift away from high AP weapons outside of things like Castellens this becomes a really hard brick to break. Utilising things like astral aim on lascannons to put the pressure on or cripple elite units trying to hide can just turn the game really quickly, casting gate on a land raider full of purifiers to deliver 2d6 mortals the turn after you've just created a new threat on the other side of the table is honestly such a crazy asset to just have in your back pocket.
There really is alot of hidden strength in this book despite what people may think, if i was to do it again the Dread Knight would honestly be the first thing to go, something I would really like to stress test at some point is 3x10 purifier and 6 razor backs/ rhinos backed by the pally star. At Briscon I got to play games 1,3 and 5 on stream so if you're interested to see how I did it that would be the best place to look. Game 5 I really had to pull out all the stops and use absolutely every tool in my shed to bring this one home, Leigh really had me on the ropes from turns 3-4 but just that tiny bit of breathing space gave me the opportunity I so desperately needed.
- Challenge Completed
watch this space and the Godhammer Gaming facebook page to see what might come out next and even get a say in it yourself!
Now, for what you're really here for, straight outta 5th ed, the boys in grey... The Grey Knights. So a few weeks ago I posted on our clubs Facebook page Godhammer Gaming ( https://www.facebook.com/GodhammerGaming/) a little something to get the community involved a little bit by allowing them to vote on which codex I would have to play at the next event. This of course ended up being the worlds most famous bottom feeders Mono Grey Knights. I can safely say for all the flak these guys cop I honestly had the most fun in ages playing them. They have so many unique tools and interesting combos that people either don't pick up on or seriously underrate.
For those who haven't seen the list this is roughly what I ran;
Draigo
Brother Captain
Grand master dread knight
apothecary
10 pallies
10 purifiers
5 purgs
godhammer land raider
godhammer land raider
So at first glance this definitely looks like something straight from 5th edition but when you consider how terrain is starting to shape up in 8th ed with all the line of sight blocking, the shift away from high AP weapons outside of things like Castellens this becomes a really hard brick to break. Utilising things like astral aim on lascannons to put the pressure on or cripple elite units trying to hide can just turn the game really quickly, casting gate on a land raider full of purifiers to deliver 2d6 mortals the turn after you've just created a new threat on the other side of the table is honestly such a crazy asset to just have in your back pocket.
There really is alot of hidden strength in this book despite what people may think, if i was to do it again the Dread Knight would honestly be the first thing to go, something I would really like to stress test at some point is 3x10 purifier and 6 razor backs/ rhinos backed by the pally star. At Briscon I got to play games 1,3 and 5 on stream so if you're interested to see how I did it that would be the best place to look. Game 5 I really had to pull out all the stops and use absolutely every tool in my shed to bring this one home, Leigh really had me on the ropes from turns 3-4 but just that tiny bit of breathing space gave me the opportunity I so desperately needed.
- Challenge Completed
watch this space and the Godhammer Gaming facebook page to see what might come out next and even get a say in it yourself!
Thursday, April 4, 2019
The Army of Titan - Grey Knights Initial Thoughts
Recently I have taken a peek at Grey Knights as requested my the majority as I will be running these not so bad boys at Briscon. As most of you know GK have it pretty tough at the moment compared to all their marine brothers, however I'm here to prove it may not be all doom and gloom as you might suspect. I think currently the Grey Knights are just carrying a bit of a bad reputation based on looking at some of its capabilities on paper though on the table top these guys actually play fairly well, they most definitely have their strengths and some pretty sweet tools available to them that I think are seriously underrated.
The reason why I think their "tricks" might be underrated is because sure, in comparison to some of the stronger codex's they are clearly not quite as potent, but this doesn't mean what they can do doesn't even have a place in the meta game. An army that has manoeuvrable anti horde and decent to high quality melee threat that can simply use gate on a unit you have made the effort to wrap certainly doesn't seem like anything to laugh at.
With Briscon getting closer and closer I'm starting to get even more excited to be busting the GK out for this one and really test their metal and have a few tournament games with something drastically different to the Tyranids. For fellow GK players some of the units I'm currently focused on or believe have some serious merit are;
- Draigo ( at 180 points it really is just a steal)
- Brother Captains ( 24 inch range smite event at one mortal wound stacked across a range of different units can certainly mean the difference between a win and a loss against another elite army)
- Interceptors ( These guys seem pretty hard to look past, I'm more then happy to spend the extra few points over a strike knight to gain the movement these guys have. )
- Apothecary ( for under 100 points for essentially a captain in terminator army is actually quite amazing, they make for great back field scorers or can just be genuinley annoying to handle when they get stuck in especially with GK being able to really abuse that fight when you die for 1CP!)
- Paladins ( these guys are by far my favourite unit in this book right now and I think they are drastically underrated especially with the addition of bolter rule, They make for a great target for Astral Aim - an incredible psychic power, and an amazing counter assault/hammer unit. With the mix of a couple of warding staves and sanctuary it becomes pretty off putting to start throwing the units that are naturally set up to fight pallies into combat with them.
My suggestions for Grey Knight players,
Don't be scared to spend majority of your game hiding, there is no reason to have to try and face tank an army like tau or eldar when you don't need to, throw those pallies out of line of sight with the characters and deepstrike the rest, GK can do their damage relatively quickly unless your fighting mech and if they only have 2 turns of shooting to retaliate to an army with 2+ armour (using cover) it can be very daunting for them. But the most important thing is do not get lead into the trap of standing still to make full use of that bolter rule, use your movement!!
Finally so there is no excuse for using Grey Knights as a cop out and not performing, I'm going to set a couple of goals for Briscon. So 5 games over two days I will be aiming for 4 wins and 1 loss, that's what I believe to be realistic with what I plan on running, though ideally 4 wins and a draw would really wrap it up for me. Once I've settled on a list you'll be sure to see it here but for now I continue to explore.
The reason why I think their "tricks" might be underrated is because sure, in comparison to some of the stronger codex's they are clearly not quite as potent, but this doesn't mean what they can do doesn't even have a place in the meta game. An army that has manoeuvrable anti horde and decent to high quality melee threat that can simply use gate on a unit you have made the effort to wrap certainly doesn't seem like anything to laugh at.
With Briscon getting closer and closer I'm starting to get even more excited to be busting the GK out for this one and really test their metal and have a few tournament games with something drastically different to the Tyranids. For fellow GK players some of the units I'm currently focused on or believe have some serious merit are;
- Draigo ( at 180 points it really is just a steal)
- Brother Captains ( 24 inch range smite event at one mortal wound stacked across a range of different units can certainly mean the difference between a win and a loss against another elite army)
- Interceptors ( These guys seem pretty hard to look past, I'm more then happy to spend the extra few points over a strike knight to gain the movement these guys have. )
- Apothecary ( for under 100 points for essentially a captain in terminator army is actually quite amazing, they make for great back field scorers or can just be genuinley annoying to handle when they get stuck in especially with GK being able to really abuse that fight when you die for 1CP!)
- Paladins ( these guys are by far my favourite unit in this book right now and I think they are drastically underrated especially with the addition of bolter rule, They make for a great target for Astral Aim - an incredible psychic power, and an amazing counter assault/hammer unit. With the mix of a couple of warding staves and sanctuary it becomes pretty off putting to start throwing the units that are naturally set up to fight pallies into combat with them.
My suggestions for Grey Knight players,
Don't be scared to spend majority of your game hiding, there is no reason to have to try and face tank an army like tau or eldar when you don't need to, throw those pallies out of line of sight with the characters and deepstrike the rest, GK can do their damage relatively quickly unless your fighting mech and if they only have 2 turns of shooting to retaliate to an army with 2+ armour (using cover) it can be very daunting for them. But the most important thing is do not get lead into the trap of standing still to make full use of that bolter rule, use your movement!!
Finally so there is no excuse for using Grey Knights as a cop out and not performing, I'm going to set a couple of goals for Briscon. So 5 games over two days I will be aiming for 4 wins and 1 loss, that's what I believe to be realistic with what I plan on running, though ideally 4 wins and a draw would really wrap it up for me. Once I've settled on a list you'll be sure to see it here but for now I continue to explore.
Friday, March 22, 2019
Re-Awaken
Welcome back for another tournament season!
Sorry for my inactivity over the last month or so, but never fear, that is all about to change, this year I have some new spicy ideas I will be testing and wreaking havoc across the Australian meta with.
Will that be with my beloved Tyranids? who knows ;) Watch this space in the coming weeks to find out what will be hitting the tables!
This year I want to try something a little different to engage some of the readers a little more,
once the tournament season is well underway in QLD I will be taking votes on the Godhammer Facebook page on what codex people would like to see me play for an upcoming event, I'll also throw together a detailed analysis on what I work through to select units from said codex for the upcoming event!
Look forward to hearing what codex you would all like to see get some action!
Sorry for my inactivity over the last month or so, but never fear, that is all about to change, this year I have some new spicy ideas I will be testing and wreaking havoc across the Australian meta with.
Will that be with my beloved Tyranids? who knows ;) Watch this space in the coming weeks to find out what will be hitting the tables!
This year I want to try something a little different to engage some of the readers a little more,
once the tournament season is well underway in QLD I will be taking votes on the Godhammer Facebook page on what codex people would like to see me play for an upcoming event, I'll also throw together a detailed analysis on what I work through to select units from said codex for the upcoming event!
Look forward to hearing what codex you would all like to see get some action!
Friday, February 15, 2019
The Great Devourer
Welcome back guys/gals, last weekend saw the conclusion of Queensland Masters.
Shout out to dad #2 Josh McGowan for sorting this one out last minute, had another hardy run through the gauntlet running into the brick wall himself Mr. Simon Gojky for the title.
So Simon was running a slightly different version of his Cancon list, still using the grotesques but with some added shooting from the ravagers and some more wracks, I was running for the most part my normal carpet list, but I decided to do something silly like add another 90 gaunts to the horde, so yes, I was running 270 gaunts at this one. My reasoning for this was with the concern of the added anti horde hitting the meta with the bolter rule and people just adapting to the horde meta a little more, I thought is this actually going to be relevant if I just 100 models to the carpet. This turned out to be the right decision because even against probably my hardest matchup being orks, they just could not get through that many models quick enough, the attrition war has still been too hard for people to overcome when playing against the Hivefleet. In saying that, I expect the meta especially the top end of the meta to start really adapting to the horde, so as a horde player I will still carry my concerns regardless of the success the army has had.
So with the last 5 or so months of success since I picked up the Nids, Cancon winner, Queensland Master and held onto the undefeated streak, It hurt me to even say that Hivefleet Cuck will be entering retirement for the foreseeable future. Mostly because it truly is just far too difficult to not be incredibly burnt out after playing 5-6 months of 150+ models.
So with the new tournament season starting, ETC and ATC on the cards, what better way to pickup a new and flavourful army.
With this blog moving forward I would love some suggestions on what everyone would like to see from this blog in the new year or if you're happy to keep reading similar content to what I have been putting out there.
Shout out to dad #2 Josh McGowan for sorting this one out last minute, had another hardy run through the gauntlet running into the brick wall himself Mr. Simon Gojky for the title.
So Simon was running a slightly different version of his Cancon list, still using the grotesques but with some added shooting from the ravagers and some more wracks, I was running for the most part my normal carpet list, but I decided to do something silly like add another 90 gaunts to the horde, so yes, I was running 270 gaunts at this one. My reasoning for this was with the concern of the added anti horde hitting the meta with the bolter rule and people just adapting to the horde meta a little more, I thought is this actually going to be relevant if I just 100 models to the carpet. This turned out to be the right decision because even against probably my hardest matchup being orks, they just could not get through that many models quick enough, the attrition war has still been too hard for people to overcome when playing against the Hivefleet. In saying that, I expect the meta especially the top end of the meta to start really adapting to the horde, so as a horde player I will still carry my concerns regardless of the success the army has had.
So with the last 5 or so months of success since I picked up the Nids, Cancon winner, Queensland Master and held onto the undefeated streak, It hurt me to even say that Hivefleet Cuck will be entering retirement for the foreseeable future. Mostly because it truly is just far too difficult to not be incredibly burnt out after playing 5-6 months of 150+ models.
So with the new tournament season starting, ETC and ATC on the cards, what better way to pickup a new and flavourful army.
With this blog moving forward I would love some suggestions on what everyone would like to see from this blog in the new year or if you're happy to keep reading similar content to what I have been putting out there.
Friday, February 1, 2019
AND THATS A WRAP!
Alright guys/gals so most of you may already know the Hivefleet managed to take out Cancon 2019!
This was a pretty massive accomplishment being the biggest event i have played in to date and it truly was like running the gauntlet. 8 games over 3 days was a hell of a grind and to top it all off I believe I had one tough slog of a tournament run playing against Andy Bighead Armstrong, Matt #1 Morosoli, Hayden Hades Walduck, Jeremy Marigold Martino, and Leigh The Bull Abbey.
As tough as it was it is exactly what I wanted, I was there to prove my worth and to play all of Australia's heavy hitters and come out on top was perfect. The list worked exactly how I hoped it would playing into this meta though I did run into one of my major concerns being tau. That game was essentially just being shot for 6 turns while I tried to pick up a couple of fire warrior units and stay on top with objectives.
This was a perfect way to wrap up the tournament season with the Nids and a massive accomplishment for the Godhammer Gaming crew with a stellar performance across the board and it was definitely different and pretty exciting to show up the on the American's radar as they were tuning in on Downunder Networks stream over the weekend!
Moving forward I'm anxiously waiting to see what the GSC drop brings to my army but after Cancon it's safe to say I've got my mojo back with my favourite army after getting relatively burnt out a couple of weeks before Cancon. With QLD masters now one week away we'll see if I can keep the undefeated run going and power through this entire tournament season.
Next post I'll give a run down on what I decided to take to QLD masters and talk about how it went and what some of my meta concerns are which has taken a bit of a shake up with the bolter rule hitting the tables. For those of you who would like to check it out here is a link to Rd8 vs Leigh Abbey.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFKOfUZNrTI&t=2824s&fbclid=IwAR19nYa8GB_wNyBIvdk8pa5snsyzQCA2h-gjwN1biEiObU0xzn51Je4FiuY
If anyone has any questions on something I haven't covered please feel free to message the Godhammer Gaming Facebook page to have a chat or discuss some lists!
This was a pretty massive accomplishment being the biggest event i have played in to date and it truly was like running the gauntlet. 8 games over 3 days was a hell of a grind and to top it all off I believe I had one tough slog of a tournament run playing against Andy Bighead Armstrong, Matt #1 Morosoli, Hayden Hades Walduck, Jeremy Marigold Martino, and Leigh The Bull Abbey.
As tough as it was it is exactly what I wanted, I was there to prove my worth and to play all of Australia's heavy hitters and come out on top was perfect. The list worked exactly how I hoped it would playing into this meta though I did run into one of my major concerns being tau. That game was essentially just being shot for 6 turns while I tried to pick up a couple of fire warrior units and stay on top with objectives.
This was a perfect way to wrap up the tournament season with the Nids and a massive accomplishment for the Godhammer Gaming crew with a stellar performance across the board and it was definitely different and pretty exciting to show up the on the American's radar as they were tuning in on Downunder Networks stream over the weekend!
Moving forward I'm anxiously waiting to see what the GSC drop brings to my army but after Cancon it's safe to say I've got my mojo back with my favourite army after getting relatively burnt out a couple of weeks before Cancon. With QLD masters now one week away we'll see if I can keep the undefeated run going and power through this entire tournament season.
Next post I'll give a run down on what I decided to take to QLD masters and talk about how it went and what some of my meta concerns are which has taken a bit of a shake up with the bolter rule hitting the tables. For those of you who would like to check it out here is a link to Rd8 vs Leigh Abbey.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFKOfUZNrTI&t=2824s&fbclid=IwAR19nYa8GB_wNyBIvdk8pa5snsyzQCA2h-gjwN1biEiObU0xzn51Je4FiuY
If anyone has any questions on something I haven't covered please feel free to message the Godhammer Gaming Facebook page to have a chat or discuss some lists!
Sunday, January 13, 2019
Secrets Unveiled
Welcome back guys, as promised this week I'll go over a few of the lists I think are ones to watch out for at Cancon and what we could probably expect to see at the pointy end and how I feel about my list coming in.
So list number 1; The army everyone hates. 180 plague bearers being run by Leigh Abbey, so this army is quite clearly a great choice of list when playing in the ITC format whether it be the full extreme of 180 or anywhere from 90+ bearers, the resilience and damage from these 7 point objective secured units is just insane, as most of you would already know it is incredibly difficult to ever get kill one against this list let alone even contemplating hold more. The only way you will go toe to toe with this army in ITC is if your list has the ability to be able to push back and force him to actually work for his board control otherwise you are more or less playing out an already written story. This is definitely an army we can expect to see at the pointy end if not take the event out.
List number 2:
The not so new Ork horde! similar to the plague bearers this army has a pretty intimidating advance and can gain board control straight off the bat which is incredibly important in ITC, the difference with this one is the ridiculous fire power coming out of the mobbed up loota squads, for those of you who haven't been on the receiving end of this yet be grateful, 9 times out of 10 this unit is putting 100-150 str7 -1 Two damage shots into you with re roll ones to hit and generating extra shots on 5's. Some lists just cannot cop this sort of punishment for more then one turn and for some just one volley can be enough to wrap the game up especially being protected by my now most hated stratagem... Grotshield :(
On the plus side this is one of the few armies that can definitely put plague bearers on the ropes so hopefully these neat little Ork lists can put some of those filthy followers of Nurgle on their arse. This is definitely one to watch and i could almost guarantee we will see Orks within the top 10 at Cancon.
List 3:
This one has been around for a while and although i think it has lost a few teeth a lot of people still seem to be keen as mustard for the catachan horde + knight castellan. There's heaps of these lists most with a slightly different take on what is supporting it to suit their own play style I guess, I think some of the better players with these armies will still do quite well but I feel like most are going to fall over the ork and bearer hordes and possibly some of the ynarri lists depending on what they have supporting the catachan. Will we see these lists in the top 5? I don't believe we will but I do think they will do a number on some of the left field lists hoping to sneak through.
List 4:
Probably the most hated faction is about to hit the scene and hit it hard, and of course that faction is tau. There's probably nothing i hate more then having to just pick up half my army looking down the barrel of 9 broadsides but this is now a very real nightmare. Do I think these broadside/riptide lists will win events and or Cancon? No, however they absolutely have the potential to put some of the current top tier lists down pretty hard. A tau list i would genuinely back to win events is any sort of manoeuvrable tau, something like Hayden Manskie has submitted with his fire warrior and devilfish spam list, i absolutely love it, with the addition of some AP shooting this list could be absolutely incredible. I 100% expect to see tau in the top 10 possibly the top 5 as I think it is too soon for people to have adjusted to this meta of potent hordes with the added threat of ridiculous fire power you simply cannot build for it all.
List 5: The sleeper.
Played by one of QLD's heavy hitters, dad#2 Simon Gojky.
he has decided to go with something insanely resilient with a lot of hidden power and a nice bag of tricks, for those of you who haven't seen his list yet, he is running ;
Eldrad
warlock on bike
5 rangers
5 rangers
10 rangers
Troupe master
solitaire (hate this guy)
death jester
death jester
urien
haemonculus with vexator (also hate this guy)
5 wracks
5 wracks
5 wracks
10 grotesques
9 grotesques
9 grotesques
I personally think this list is amazing and has everything it needs to go the distance especially in an ITC format. I'm expecting Simon to grab himself a podium with this one if not take out the event. Multi wound units at the moment i think are really strong especially when given a 4++ and a FNP they really throw out any sort of plans in the shooting phase when trying to figure out where you might be after a turn of shooting, if those 4+ invos are hot your big scary guns aren't getting you out of trouble, and with hidden gems like smite + executioner and the bucket of snipers he can really get through those screens a lot quicker then you might expect, on top of that you will have the constant threat of the solitaire being able to reach in and pick up a few cheeky character kills which will definitely turn a game on its head especially against these plague bearer lists.
Looking through all these lists, contemplating some concerns, re thinking some strategies, I feel pretty good about the list I chose to take, I believe I can compete will all of these top lists with the bag of tech choices I have chosen to take and can commit to an attrition war against these daemon armies. Based on recent tournament experiences I back the strength in my Hivefleet so hopefully it has the guts to pull me through one more event.
for those who haven't seen my list yet this is the general gist of things
nurothrope
malanthrope
6 units of gaunts
2 biovores
broodlord
old one eye
3 units of rippers
patriarch
magus
primus
stealer bomb
The next post probably won't be until after Cancon and I will give you a run down of my games and how the Hivefleet measured up against the current 40k favourite factions.
So list number 1; The army everyone hates. 180 plague bearers being run by Leigh Abbey, so this army is quite clearly a great choice of list when playing in the ITC format whether it be the full extreme of 180 or anywhere from 90+ bearers, the resilience and damage from these 7 point objective secured units is just insane, as most of you would already know it is incredibly difficult to ever get kill one against this list let alone even contemplating hold more. The only way you will go toe to toe with this army in ITC is if your list has the ability to be able to push back and force him to actually work for his board control otherwise you are more or less playing out an already written story. This is definitely an army we can expect to see at the pointy end if not take the event out.
List number 2:
The not so new Ork horde! similar to the plague bearers this army has a pretty intimidating advance and can gain board control straight off the bat which is incredibly important in ITC, the difference with this one is the ridiculous fire power coming out of the mobbed up loota squads, for those of you who haven't been on the receiving end of this yet be grateful, 9 times out of 10 this unit is putting 100-150 str7 -1 Two damage shots into you with re roll ones to hit and generating extra shots on 5's. Some lists just cannot cop this sort of punishment for more then one turn and for some just one volley can be enough to wrap the game up especially being protected by my now most hated stratagem... Grotshield :(
On the plus side this is one of the few armies that can definitely put plague bearers on the ropes so hopefully these neat little Ork lists can put some of those filthy followers of Nurgle on their arse. This is definitely one to watch and i could almost guarantee we will see Orks within the top 10 at Cancon.
List 3:
This one has been around for a while and although i think it has lost a few teeth a lot of people still seem to be keen as mustard for the catachan horde + knight castellan. There's heaps of these lists most with a slightly different take on what is supporting it to suit their own play style I guess, I think some of the better players with these armies will still do quite well but I feel like most are going to fall over the ork and bearer hordes and possibly some of the ynarri lists depending on what they have supporting the catachan. Will we see these lists in the top 5? I don't believe we will but I do think they will do a number on some of the left field lists hoping to sneak through.
List 4:
Probably the most hated faction is about to hit the scene and hit it hard, and of course that faction is tau. There's probably nothing i hate more then having to just pick up half my army looking down the barrel of 9 broadsides but this is now a very real nightmare. Do I think these broadside/riptide lists will win events and or Cancon? No, however they absolutely have the potential to put some of the current top tier lists down pretty hard. A tau list i would genuinely back to win events is any sort of manoeuvrable tau, something like Hayden Manskie has submitted with his fire warrior and devilfish spam list, i absolutely love it, with the addition of some AP shooting this list could be absolutely incredible. I 100% expect to see tau in the top 10 possibly the top 5 as I think it is too soon for people to have adjusted to this meta of potent hordes with the added threat of ridiculous fire power you simply cannot build for it all.
List 5: The sleeper.
Played by one of QLD's heavy hitters, dad#2 Simon Gojky.
he has decided to go with something insanely resilient with a lot of hidden power and a nice bag of tricks, for those of you who haven't seen his list yet, he is running ;
Eldrad
warlock on bike
5 rangers
5 rangers
10 rangers
Troupe master
solitaire (hate this guy)
death jester
death jester
urien
haemonculus with vexator (also hate this guy)
5 wracks
5 wracks
5 wracks
10 grotesques
9 grotesques
9 grotesques
I personally think this list is amazing and has everything it needs to go the distance especially in an ITC format. I'm expecting Simon to grab himself a podium with this one if not take out the event. Multi wound units at the moment i think are really strong especially when given a 4++ and a FNP they really throw out any sort of plans in the shooting phase when trying to figure out where you might be after a turn of shooting, if those 4+ invos are hot your big scary guns aren't getting you out of trouble, and with hidden gems like smite + executioner and the bucket of snipers he can really get through those screens a lot quicker then you might expect, on top of that you will have the constant threat of the solitaire being able to reach in and pick up a few cheeky character kills which will definitely turn a game on its head especially against these plague bearer lists.
Looking through all these lists, contemplating some concerns, re thinking some strategies, I feel pretty good about the list I chose to take, I believe I can compete will all of these top lists with the bag of tech choices I have chosen to take and can commit to an attrition war against these daemon armies. Based on recent tournament experiences I back the strength in my Hivefleet so hopefully it has the guts to pull me through one more event.
for those who haven't seen my list yet this is the general gist of things
nurothrope
malanthrope
6 units of gaunts
2 biovores
broodlord
old one eye
3 units of rippers
patriarch
magus
primus
stealer bomb
The next post probably won't be until after Cancon and I will give you a run down of my games and how the Hivefleet measured up against the current 40k favourite factions.
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